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    Quote Originally Posted by Exploder Wizard View Post
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    4th edition math sucks. I would hate to see 5E be a beast of precisely scaled challenges that require a basic 10+ to succeed.
    Well, that's the short version...

    The thing I want 5e to accomplish is "never more than two-rolls tops" to complete any action. Attack, then Damage. Grab, then Hold. Stealth vs. Perception. Diplomacy vs. Insight. Damage, then Saving Throw. I don't think any single player action should require more than this. I never want to return to the world of Grapple Checks, Trip Monkeys, or the summoner's pet horde of earth elementals.

    A few other areas of 4e math works (or they got it to work via trial and error): how to handle large encounters. Monster math (post MM3). XP budgets (for those so inclined). I even have grudging respect for 1/2 level + Stat math (though, as stated, I'd love to see some way to use other mathematical advancements as well). I think some of these things, reworked into the frame of a AD&D/3e style class structure, could work wonders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveMage View Post
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    Well, well, well...

    Look who's come crawling back....

    Beg, WotC....BEG!!!!
    I vote this post as the thread winning post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyxox View Post
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    I vote this post as the thread winning post.
    I second the motion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PWD View Post
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    I cannot have any thoughts on this edition until I hear the Mistophacy.

    We all know it's coming, so deliver it already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyxox View Post
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    I vote this post as the thread winning post.
    I second third this motion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyxox View Post
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    I vote this post as the thread winning post.
    Thing is, I get the feeling most of the folk who should be doing the begging are now gone.
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    I know I'm going to savor the cries of the 4e true believers over the next few months.


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    I saw mention that D&D Experience is moving to GenCon in 2013. Is that a big deal or not? Maybe it's because it got buried with 5e news, but it strikes me as significant.
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    I saw mention that D&D Experience is moving to GenCon in 2013. Is that a big deal or not? Maybe it's because it got buried with 5e news, but it strikes me as significant.
    I see it as a big deal. With the focusing of DDXP at Winter Expo, it seemed like D&D was trying to be the special snowflake, with its own con. Now, I see this as a smart synergy. Make the biggest con *your* biggest con and make the best of the crowds already there.

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    It would be cool if they brought Greyhawk out of dormancy in some way for 5e. Maybe as an "Old School" supplement or some-such.

    EDIT: Should "what I would like to see in 5e D&D" posts work in this thread, or would it warrant it's own?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabloid Believer View Post
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    Answer's pretty simple:

    If they want a system that will please many people and offend very few - make something akin to Star Wars Saga.

    Done.
    Count me as one of the few then. After playing that system it seemed to keep all the things I disliked from 3rd Ed, and added very little of the advances of 4th.
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    Damn you and your perfectly valid criticism!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelHardisson View Post
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    I saw mention that D&D Experience is moving to GenCon in 2013. Is that a big deal or not? Maybe it's because it got buried with 5e news, but it strikes me as significant.
    Sounds like a good bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrus View Post
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    Sounds like a good bet.
    Then it looks like 2013 will have to be my first trip to Gen Con.
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    The thing I really found interesting was the Chinese video game art studio working on Forgotten Realms art (I sear I saw this somewhere but I can't find the link). That implies a big online component to this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelHardisson View Post
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    It would be cool if they brought Greyhawk out of dormancy in some way for 5e. Maybe as an "Old School" supplement or some-such.

    EDIT: Should "what I would like to see in 5e D&D" posts work in this thread, or would it warrant it's own?
    I'd go one further than that - assuming that they ratchet back to the lowest detail being "class" regardless of race, with the additions of race/subclasses as a first layer, skills/feats as a second layer, etc, then they could actually revive the Known World as the vehicle for the least complex layer, Greyhawk for the race/subclass complexity level, etc.

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