Thread: Random Entertainment Thoughts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorian View Post
    She won an Academy Award for some Oscar bait shit about transgender artists. Goes to show that a movie about the Left's current favorite incredibly rare social issue outweighs the pressing need to really think about AI safety and the question of artificial consciousness. Also the AI movie is like 90 something on Rotten Tomatoes vs the transgender movie at like 60 something.
    Well, artists as a group are a punch of entitled pricks. "And some of them, I assume, are good people."

    Androids and transgenders have in common that neither is what the casual viewer believes them to be. But everyone knows androids/robots are so much cooler then mere people! PLus: Summer Glau as a Terminator AI? Hawt! Summer Glau theoretically playing a pre-op trans born male? Okay, yes, still Summer Glau, so...

    I do plan to watch The Danish Girl at some point. I'd forgotten she was in it, so her presence probably wasn't the reason I added it to my long list of Stuff To Watch Eventually.

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    Did you miss U.N.C.L.E.? If so, it was pretty decent.
    I did miss that, yes. There's something about Armie Hammer I find vaguely off-putting, plus I'm sick of the endless recycling of old properties in general, so U.N.C.L.E. was pretty low priority for me.

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    Ex-Machina was exploring the concept of AI that doesn't want to be controlled (misaligned) and, if you listen to some of the interviews with the director, that is an unconscious intelligence. Highly capable, no one home, completely amoral.
    Something I believe Ex Machina has in common with HBO's take on Westworld.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorian View Post
    And Elon Musk is merely acting on Nick Bostrom's ideas. People so eager to dismiss superintelligent AI need to read his book.
    I have. I think he's skewing very strongly on the paranoid side.



    Quote Originally Posted by Advocatus Diaboli View Post
    There's something about Armie Hammer I find vaguely off-putting, plus I'm sick of the endless recycling of old properties in general, so U.N.C.L.E. was pretty low priority for me.
    It was a good movie though.

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    I have. I think he's skewing very strongly on the paranoid side.




    It was a good movie though.

    (I'm old Man from UNCLE fan)
    I'll put it on my list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nail bunny View Post
    I have. I think he's skewing very strongly on the paranoid side.
    He very well could be, but that's not a counter argument. Nick Bostrom does seem to be an overly cautious person, but then again, Musk famously doesn't. How much do you think we ought to be spending on the AI alignment problem? Corollary: is it worth betting the future of humanity on it?

    Also, did you understand that book? I recall it requiring a fairly high level of mathematical and philosophical literacy, and I didn't think you had that sort of education. Reviews have called it dense, opaque, and hard to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Advocatus Diaboli View Post
    Something I believe Ex Machina has in common with HBO's take on Westworld.
    Westworld makes the mistake of linking consciousness with free will, and ponders if the robots have free will. Might as well ask if they have souls. The question is, do they have experiences? Can they suffer? It's a good show, don't get me wrong, and brings up many interesting moral questions. Sam Harris and Paul Bloom did a very interesting podcast on such issues, which was initially titled "Raping Dolores" tho retitled "Abusing Dolores". First title too edgy heh.


    I love podcasts. We should start up a Random Podcast Thoughts thread.

    edit: That podcast doesn't start talking about robots in media until like 55 minutes in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorian View Post
    Corollary: is it worth betting the future of humanity on it?
    IMO? Yes.


    Also, did you understand that book? I recall it requiring a fairly high level of mathematical and philosophical literacy, and I didn't think you had that sort of education. Reviews have called it dense, opaque, and hard to read.
    The math blew past me, as I stopped hard at trig in school. But one doesn't need college to become educated. Specially not in philosophy (which I am well versed in).

    And yes, reading it was like chewing a brick. But that just means you take longer doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nail bunny View Post
    But one doesn't need college to become educated. Specially not in philosophy (which I am well versed in).
    Lol.
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    I saw the first episode of Electric Dreams and was not particularly excited by it. The sets look like castoffs from Blade Runner. I don't recall why telepaths have to have red scars running down their faces along one eye, either. There are plenty of Philip K Dick tropes in here: paranoia, paranormal psychic abilities, and a totalitarian state subjecting its citizens to constant surveillance, but so far it is not what I'd' call compelling. I prefer the televised version of the Man in the High Castle, even with its variances from the book.

    Has anyone else seen Electric Dreams? what do you think?
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    Kingsman: The Golden Circle - lacked a bit of the shock factor of the first, but was still a really enjoyable film.

    Spoiler:

    Sorry to see a main character killed off, so pointlessly, but I suppose she can make a come back, as you never saw the body. Also I really hope the next film doesn't become Statesman heavy. Could certainly do without seeing more Halle Berry in it, or Channing Tatum for that matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagpuss View Post
    Kingsman: The Golden Circle - lacked a bit of the shock factor of the first, but was still a really enjoyable film.

    Spoiler:

    Sorry to see a main character killed off, so pointlessly, but I suppose she can make a come back, as you never saw the body. Also I really hope the next film doesn't become Statesman heavy. Could certainly do without seeing more Halle Berry in it, or Channing Tatum for that matter.
    Enjoyed the movie; saddened that my favourite Team-America-tribute line from the Red Band trailer wasn't actually in the film.



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    If you're a Forged In Fire fan, my SCA buddy Grendel (Nick) is going to be back on the Oct. 17th show. He's the big bear of a guy who wears the rainbow suspenders, tasted the steel (as well as the epoxy ).

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    If you're a Forged In Fire fan, my SCA buddy Grendel (Nick) is going to be back on the Oct. 17th show. He's the big bear of a guy who wears the rainbow suspenders, tasted the steel (as well as the epoxy ).
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    My damn moviepass finally came in the mail today after more than a month. Going to see Blade Runner tonight!

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    Whelp, that's done. I made it halfway through the 3rd season opener for Mr. Robot, a show I've enjoyed, before they turned to directly involving current politics. If I want to see people bashing Trump like he's the antichrist, I can go just about anywhere. I don't like Trump, and I don't care that other people hate him, but the froth is offputting and I'm not wasting entertainment time on poorly done political commentary that's not original or uncommon. I like the subversive message and anti-corporatist messages of Mr. Robot, but the blatant current political commentary is just fucking tired.

    So, I dumped it from the DVR and canceled the season record. Not worth wading through twitter level rants to get to anything good.
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