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    Lone Wolf sends Cease & Desist letters to anyone using the term 'Army Builder'

    http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/2010/02/01/33231

    Apparently Lone Wolf is sending out C&D letters over the use of the term "Army Builder" including use of it in forums.

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    C&D on a term when used in conversation? I can't see that getting any traction!

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    They've told Privateer Press that they have to moderate their forums and educate their users not to use the term. Lone Wolf is making a very bad PR move.

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    You Might Want To Step Out of the Books For This One!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostwind View Post
    Lone Wolf is making a very bad PR move.
    Yeah, threatening to sue people for discussing your product is a great way to make certain that nobody does. OTOH, Palladium Books is still in business.
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    That's pretty fucking developmentally disabled.

    If I can't use a generic "army builder" term wile speaking about building armies, Lone Wolf can take their Army Builder ™ software and shove it up their asses! It might take me a bit longer, but I can create a spreadsheet to build all the armies I want and my army builder spreadhseet costs me nothing but time, but I don't have to buy their Army Builder ™ software to get the same results.

    What's freakiest about this is they link to datasets of material that is proprietary to multiple games! They built a niche industry on violation of IP rights!
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    Is Lone Wolf a subsidiary of Games Workshop?
    fuck you guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrus View Post
    C&D on a term when used in conversation? I can't see that getting any traction!
    Hey, you might want to get proactive about this.

    Perhaps setup a filter which replaces the offending term with something that won't get your ass in legal trouble. Might I suggest, "FUCK YOU LONE WOLF!"?
    fuck you guys.

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    One guy posted a (short) rant on their forums, and they replied that they were legally required to protect their trademark.

    http://forums.wolflair.com/showthread.php?t=9731

    They've slightly misunderstood trademark law as I understand it. While they do run the risk of losing a tardemark if they don't protect it (although they're not required to protect it!), that's only under certain conditions. Conversational usage is not one of those conditions.


    Heh, talking of trademarks, I wonder how protective they are of their own company name? By their own logic they should be sending C&Ds to [cribbed from Wikipedia]:
    Plus, of course, anybody mentioning these things in conversation.
    So the actual story here is far more exciting than it appears. Lone Wolf is going to sue Chuck Norris!
    Last edited by Morrus; February 3rd, 2010 at 01:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrus View Post
    So the actual story here is far more exciting than it appears. Lone Wolf is going to sue Chuck Norris!
    Chuck Norris doesn't burn books, he sues them into oblivion.
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    Lone Wolf can go screw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3catcircus View Post
    Army Builder (x23)

    Being ignorant about these things, can we as a message board raise the profile of the phrase "army builder" on the intraweb? Like folks did with the tag "suchindran chatterjee"? I don't want to create any undue hassle for Morrus, mind you, but poking Lone Wolf seems appropriate (if good for half a giggle).

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    Rob from LWD tries to explain why they went after Privateer.

    http://forums.wolflair.com/showthread.php?t=9735

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morrus View Post
    ...They've slightly misunderstood trademark law as I understand it. While they do run the risk of losing a tardemark if they don't...
    Best typo ever?


    Best typo ever.


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    Can't wait for the filter to replace all that with 'FUCK YOU LONE WOLF!'
    “There is no intimacy; it’s not live,” he said of online games. “It’s being translated through a computer, and your imagination is not there the same way it is when you’re actually together with a group of people. It reminds me of one time where I saw some children talking about whether they liked radio or television, and I asked one little boy why he preferred radio, and he said, ‘Because the pictures are so much better.’ ” - E.G.Gygax 1938-2008

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    Descriptive words and phrases are not trademarkable. The PTO will sometimes give you a TM until it is challenged, but if this is challenged (and they are begging to get challenged now) they risk losing the TM entirely.
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