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    Quote Originally Posted by nail bunny View Post
    Ah, but it asks 'what kind of food' and these aren't grapes you eat, they are grapes you drink.

    At least muscadelle is a wine. Thanks lushy neighbor!
    I once picked 30 pounds of wine grapes, old vine Zinfandel and Syrah varieties, at a local vineyard. The proprietor normally sold them by the ton, but was happy to let me have a smaller amount for a small price. I used them to make jams and jellies.

    Let me tell you something about wine grapes. They taste a billion times better than anything you will be able to buy in most supermarkets. Why? Because they haven't been genetically adapted to enhance appearance and shelf life at the expense of flavor. The flavor of these wine grapes is complex and intense. So I'm amused that you think they aren't for eating. Pound for pound, even with the multiple seeds and small size, they're better tasting than any pathetic "Thompson" grapes you may get at the store. And the jams/jellies they made were like a little party in your mouth. Forget Welch's grape jelly. This is something of a different order entirely.
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    If not grapes, then caviar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiningbrow View Post

    Let me tell you something about wine grapes. They taste a billion times better than anything you will be able to buy in most supermarkets. Why? Because they haven't been genetically adapted to enhance appearance and shelf life at the expense of flavor. The flavor of these wine grapes is complex and intense. So I'm amused that you think they aren't for eating. Pound for pound, even with the multiple seeds and small size, they're better tasting than any pathetic "Thompson" grapes you may get at the store.
    Yup, this. Describes those wine grapes I got at Pike market perfectly. I don't recall which variety they were, but they were kind of pale on the bottom, and rougey-red going towards flame-ish near the top. So surprisingly delicious, I'll never forget them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiningbrow View Post
    Let me tell you something about wine grapes. They taste a billion times better than anything you will be able to buy in most supermarkets.
    Interesting. I wonder if it would be worth it to market them in stores at a markup?
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    They are very delicate and easily bruised and they mold more easily than regular table grapes. Plus most people don't like spitting out seeds. We have a variety of apricot out here, Royal Blenheim, that's too delicate to ship, but is very intense in flavor and greatly prized for jam.

    Some of the greengrocers around here will sell concord or tempranillo grapes, which are about as close as you can get to wine grapes in stores. My father used to grow concord grapes and they were so sweet. Some ferment on the vines in the sun. The bees would eat them and get drunk. You could go out and cut off a cluster and they'd ignore you. Some of them would be so snookered that they'd be drunkenly meandering on the ground.
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    There are apparently over 10,000 varieties of wine grapes alone. I appreciate biodiversity as much as the next person, but, geez, Ma Nature, take it down a notch.
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    Yeah. People have been engaged in genetic modification in agriculture for a very long time. Check out this 1908 book, Plums of New York. There were over 2000 different varieties of plums at the time, and I'm sure this number has increased significantly since the early XXc. The pictures are great, too. I don't know of a parallel book that discusses grape varietals, but there must be one in some library somewhere. I work with a lot of fruit, so it's sort of an area that I like to explore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Advocatus Diaboli View Post
    There are apparently over 10,000 varieties of wine grapes alone. I appreciate biodiversity as much as the next person, but, geez, Ma Nature enthusiastic oenologists & viticulturists, take it down a notch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palaralae View Post
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    Okay, point, but they're only doing what Nature made possible. A little less natural cross"breeding"* and a little more "after its own kind" wouldn't hurt.

    *Okay, breeding is deliberate. Brain is fuzzy today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Advocatus Diaboli View Post
    Okay, point, but they're only doing what Nature made possible. A little less natural cross"breeding"* and a little more "after its own kind" wouldn't hurt.

    *Okay, breeding is deliberate. Brain is fuzzy today.
    You do realize that you're arguing in favor of widespread famine, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Advocatus Diaboli View Post
    Okay, point, but they're only doing what Nature made possible. A little less natural cross"breeding"* and a little more "after its own kind" wouldn't hurt.

    *Okay, breeding is deliberate. Brain is fuzzy today.
    Well, that's a grapist comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiningbrow View Post
    2) Grapes?
    Correct!

    2) Grapes. All three varieties are used in winemaking, thought they are much less well-known than more common varieties, like malbec, merlot, and pinot noir.


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