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    Quote Originally Posted by Kid Charlemagne View Post
    This is just more visible shit show than what every woman who comes forward goes through. People just don't see most of the shit shows. It's like how pretty blond girls who get murdered show up on the news and black girls who get murdered get a line in the back of the newspaper, if that.
    You're so full of shit it isn't even funny. All we see in the news anymore is every single non-white who has even the slightest problem (unless it's black on black shooting, gotta hide those away) and if you even accuse a man of rape his life and career are over without a trail.

    That's today's shit show.

    The only reason this women is getting any blowback is went national after a political figure. That always stirs up the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the Jester View Post
    Let's not pretend that, Senate hearings aside, they wouldn't have gone through a very similar shit show if they had complained at the time. Let's not pretend that victim blaming isn't a thing; that protecting the reputation of the aggressor hasn't been as much of a concern on the parts of the authorities as protecting the innocent. Let's not pretend that we treat sexual assault victims all that much better than we are Blasey Ford in the vast majority of cases.
    Maybe. Likely, even, but nothing like this. I was commenting on your hyperbole.


    Are you serious? The committee isn't 'investigating' shit. They're playing politics.
    Oh, you must be under a wrong impression that this isn't a political matter. If it was anything else, a police report would have been filed. This was reported to politicians, pursued by politicians, involves a political decision, and so being investigated by politicians is the proper venue. There is no justice for this matter, only politics.

    How about interviewing other (alleged) witnesses? How about verifying that Judge was employed at the Safeway when it's alleged he was? How about investigating the (growing!) number of other women who claim to have been assaulted?
    1. They provided swien statement they had no recollection of the events. What do you expect them to testify to?

    2. That allegation was leveled today. There's no possibke way it could have been included.

    3. The ones with less credible ckaims than Ford? Rodriguez's claim was well investigated by the media and no corroborating witnesses were found. Swetnick's claim is either tgat Kav and Judge participanted in a multi-year gangrape cabal with dozens of witnesses that hasn't had a single person, including Ford, corroborate. You're barking for detailed investigations of ghost stories.
    The FBI is the federal bureau in charge of- wait for it- it's in the name- INVESTIGATION. I'm pretty sure they have a variety of tools, techniques, and methods for... what's it called?... INVESTIGATING. Yeah, there have been some shit actions on the FBI's part. So are you suggesting that a politically-minded Senate committee is going to do a better job, because the FBI has fucked up in the past? Under that standard, we should do away with many police department investigative units in preference for letting local city councils do all the investigating. Fuck that- the Senators in question aren't trained investigators. They aren't impartial. They aren't even pretending to be impartial. Most of them have thrown their weight on the scales, one way or the other, days or weeks ago. They are absolutely the wrong group to be investigating anything involving this.
    The FBI investigates federal crimes. They did multiple background checks that found nothing, but that's ignored because there's some weird idea that waving the magic FBI wand will solve things, this time. This isn't a criminal referra, the FBI have no mandate, and they've akready said there's nothing in the allegation to investigate (no date, year, location, or witness statements). This is a strange pipe dream cooked up in a fevered belief that adding the FBI to a political issue will magically solve things. Grow up, fairies only exist in your games.

    The media has far more power and drive here, and all the facts the FBI would, and haven't uncovered any corroboration. To imagine this isn't one of the most investigated stories is silly.


    Given that there are multiple accusers, that's obviously false. Shouldn't alleged witnesses be deposed under oath, if not compelled to testify in front of the committee?
    Multiple accusers of different events, none of which have been corroborated and two which have many witnesses denying any recollection of the events, or even gearing of them. Hell, Ramirez says she's not 100% sure it was Kavanaugh. Come on, man. 1 single bit of investigatable evidence is needed, and so far lacking (although the Judge/Safeway thing can be, and should be, confirmed).
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    Incidentally, it's not going well for Kavanaugh.

    Quote Originally Posted by CNN Report on how FOX is reporting it
    "I think Dr. Ford is exceptionally credible," Fox's top legal analyst, Judge Andrew Napolitano, said.

    "A lot of folks" are "viewing her as a very credible witness," Supreme Court correspondent and 11 p.m. anchor Shannon Bream said.

    After the first break at Thursday's hearing, "Fox News Sunday" moderator Chris Wallace said "this is a disaster for the Republicans."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyxox View Post

    Wasn't Al Franken run out of the Senate for much less than this just last year?
    Al Franken's case was supported by photographic evidence. If the photo didn't exist and that woman was simply making an allegation against Franken without evidence we would have a similar situation.

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    At least with the Democrats, when our fucktards act badly, we flush them down the toilet. When Republican fucktards act badly, they get life-time jobs.
    You are kidding I hope. Democrat fucktards have shielding from the compliant media. Allegations against dems are quickly brushed aside but accusation against a conservative dominates the headlines for weeks.

    Quote Originally Posted by the Jester View Post
    Let's not pretend that, Senate hearings aside, they wouldn't have gone through a very similar shit show if they had complained at the time. Let's not pretend that victim blaming isn't a thing; that protecting the reputation of the aggressor hasn't been as much of a concern on the parts of the authorities as protecting the innocent. Let's not pretend that we treat sexual assault victims all that much better than we are Blasey Ford in the vast majority of cases.
    Have any of these accusers now or ever filed a criminal complaint? I'll wait.






    Quote Originally Posted by the Jester View Post
    How about interviewing other (alleged) witnesses? How about verifying that Judge was employed at the Safeway when it's alleged he was? How about investigating the (growing!) number of other women who claim to have been assaulted?
    This is what local law enforcement does when a complaint has been filed. 1)Victim files a complaint, 2) local authorities investigate and collect evidence. I am noting the distinct absence of complaints being filed.


    Quote Originally Posted by the Jester View Post
    The FBI is the federal bureau in charge of- wait for it- it's in the name- INVESTIGATION. I'm pretty sure they have a variety of tools, techniques, and methods for... what's it called?... INVESTIGATING. Yeah, there have been some shit actions on the FBI's part. So are you suggesting that a politically-minded Senate committee is going to do a better job, because the FBI has fucked up in the past? Under that standard, we should do away with many police department investigative units in preference for letting local city councils do all the investigating. Fuck that- the Senators in question aren't trained investigators. They aren't impartial. They aren't even pretending to be impartial. Most of them have thrown their weight on the scales, one way or the other, days or weeks ago. They are absolutely the wrong group to be investigating anything involving this.
    The FBI investigates federal crimes. Unless any of the the incidents in question took place on federal property there is nothing for the FBI to do here. It isn't an FBI case just because its high profile. Thats not how law enforcement works.

    If none of these "victims" is willing to swear out a criminal complaint then they crawl back under their rocks and STFU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exploder Wizard View Post
    The FBI investigates federal crimes.
    They also conduct background checks on nominees to federal office. Which is what the Democrats have asked for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kid Charlemagne View Post
    They also conduct background checks on nominees to federal office. Which is what the Democrats have asked for.
    Which happened multiple times as Kavanaugh moved up his career path and took various positions requiring background checks.

    The guy is clean and this circus needs to be burnt to the ground with all of his accusers and their backers trapped inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3catcircus View Post
    Which happened multiple times as Kavanaugh moved up his career path and took various positions requiring background checks.

    The guy is clean and this circus needs to be burnt to the ground with all of his accusers and their backers trapped inside.
    And yet not once have they looked at these specific allegations due to the fact that those who have been sexually assaulted rarely come forward you misogynistic gamergate piece of shit asshole!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyxox View Post
    And yet not once have they looked at these specific allegations due to the fact that those who have been sexually assaulted rarely come forward you misogynistic gamergate piece of shit asshole!
    This isn't a "I was afraid to come out because he holds a position of authority over me."

    Assuming he was even involved and this happened, this is the drunken fumbling of high schoolers. She doesn't deserve to make accusations resulting from making a bad decision while drunk and then regretting it the next morning. If these parties were gang-rape festivals, why'd she continue going to them 9+ more times?

    None of these accusers pass the bullshit test and they make a mockery of women (or men) who really were raped or sexually assaulted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3catcircus View Post
    This isn't a "I was afraid to come out because he holds a position of authority over me."

    Assuming he was even involved and this happened, this is the drunken fumbling of high schoolers. She doesn't deserve to make accusations resulting from making a bad decision while drunk and then regretting it the next morning. If these parties were gang-rape festivals, why'd she continue going to them 9+ more times?

    None of these accusers pass the bullshit test and they make a mockery of women (or men) who really were raped or sexually assaulted.
    You're missing something here, 3cat, which makes your correct claim that there have been multiple background checks irrelevant. Because this happened when he was a minor, it wasn't part of his background check. Ever. And dismissing this as the drunken fumbling of high schoolers is misogyny. The boys will be boys excuse for this kind of behavior ends when he put his hand on her mouth to quiet her. That's when it becomes assault. And there is a good starting point for this background investigation of an allegation in which no criminal complaint can be filed since at the time there was a 1 year statute of limitations and he was a minor at the time. That is what appears to be a party on his calendar that fits the time-frame she mentioned during her testimony this morning. Some investigation of that could lead to actual witnesses of the party.

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    Don't bother cyphersmith. 3cat is a raving right winger with his nose firmly stuck up Trump's behind. If Trump supports it, you can bet 3cat will too.

    Never you mind that there are better candidates than Kavanaugh out there.

    Never you mind that whatever or whoever Trump supports, usually turns out to be made of shit, standing in diarrhea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kirinke View Post
    Don't bother cyphersmith. 3cat is a raving right winger with his nose firmly stuck up Trump's behind. If Trump supports it, you can bet 3cat will too. Never you mind that there are better candidates than Kavanaugh out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyphersmith View Post
    You're missing something here, 3cat, which makes your correct claim that there have been multiple background checks irrelevant. Because this happened when he was a minor, it wasn't part of his background check. Ever. And dismissing this as the drunken fumbling of high schoolers is misogyny. The boys will be boys excuse for this kind of behavior ends when he put his hand on her mouth to quiet her. That's when it becomes assault. And there is a good starting point for this background investigation of an allegation in which no criminal complaint can be filed since at the time there was a 1 year statute of limitations and he was a minor at the time. That is what appears to be a party on his calendar that fits the time-frame she mentioned during her testimony this morning. Some investigation of that could lead to actual witnesses of the party.
    College =/= a minor, so if his 2nd accuser had any base to the allegations, it should've come up on his background checks. Hell - it would've come up assuming they actually interviewed his family, friends, acquaintances during the background checks throughout the years - if he was rapey in HS and college, he would've continued to be so - and there is no evidence of that occurring.

    As to boys will be boys - I'm not suggesting that at all. I'm putting forth the argument that when boys and girls drink to excess at a HS or college party and start to get grabby, they both can be at fault or both not at fault. None of the allegations have any investigatable detail - where, when, etc. and several of the alleged witnesses deny any of these events having happened the way the accusers claim.

    Why wait until now? Why didn't any of the accusers come forward when he was appointed to previous judicial positions? Oh, that's right - it isn't about any of them. It's about trying to prevent the SCOTUS seat being filled by the primary author of Ken Starr's report and the impeachment of Bill Clinton. This isn't about justice, it's about politics. Fuck the democrats and fuck these accusers for not realizing they are nothing more than the democrat's useful idiots.

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    TRUE PATRIOTIC AMERICANS will recognize the TRUTH in this:

    https://www.esquire.com/news-politic...ett-kavanaugh/

    Nazis won't.

    There are zero other possibilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3catcircus View Post
    College =/= a minor, so if his 2nd accuser had any base to the allegations, it should've come up on his background checks. Hell - it would've come up assuming they actually interviewed his family, friends, acquaintances during the background checks throughout the years - if he was rapey in HS and college, he would've continued to be so - and there is no evidence of that occurring.

    As to boys will be boys - I'm not suggesting that at all. I'm putting forth the argument that when boys and girls drink to excess at a HS or college party and start to get grabby, they both can be at fault or both not at fault. None of the allegations have any investigatable detail - where, when, etc. and several of the alleged witnesses deny any of these events having happened the way the accusers claim.

    Why wait until now? Why didn't any of the accusers come forward when he was appointed to previous judicial positions? Oh, that's right - it isn't about any of them. It's about trying to prevent the SCOTUS seat being filled by the primary author of Ken Starr's report and the impeachment of Bill Clinton. This isn't about justice, it's about politics. Fuck the democrats and fuck these accusers for not realizing they are nothing more than the democrat's useful idiots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nail bunny View Post
    You're so full of shit it isn't even funny. All we see in the news anymore is every single non-white who has even the slightest problem (unless it's black on black shooting, gotta hide those away) and if you even accuse a man of rape his life and career are over without a trail.
    Yeah, it's about time they got some power to gain some genuine equality. Oh wait, you were just being a racist, sexist as per usual.
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