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    Iron First Season II

    So I binged watched it this weekend, obviously enjoyed it. It was tighter script with the 10-episode format, the fight sequences were well choreographed and there was some good character development. I thought Mary Walker was a great addition to the Marvel-series cast - the actress and writers did a fantastic job there.
    Looking forward to DareDevil III

 

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    Definitely considerably improved on the first series, and I also think the story arc worked out a lot smoother without the occassional lengths than some of the other recent Marvel Netflix shows suffered from.
    I think Davos was not neccessarily a good villain (certainly not a very deep or complex one), but it seemed it happened enough around him that it worked, and overall it helped the show that the villain was clearly defined and stayed the same for the season. Of course ,it would have been even better if he had been as interesting as, say, Cottenmouth in Luke Cage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustrum_Ridcully View Post
    I think Davos was not neccessarily a good villain (certainly not a very deep or complex one), but it seemed it happened enough around him that it worked, and overall it helped the show that the villain was clearly defined and stayed the same for the season. Of course ,it would have been even better if he had been as interesting as, say, Cottenmouth in Luke Cage.
    Agree with all of this. Davos's simplicity worked due to the complexity of everyone else - Joy, Mary Walker, the Youth Gang...etc The ending certainly demands a sequel.

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    I really fucking hope Danny Rand uses those two guns to off himself. Jessica Henwick is not only the better actress, but also plays the better character.
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    Up to episode five and it's* so much better than season one and the Defenders it's not even funny.

    A (mostly) grown up and 'handling his stupid shit like an adult' Danny is refreshing.

    Joy is a better sympathetic villain than Ward was in season one and Ward is a far better "terrible friend and unreliable ally" than Joy was. The reversal of that situation is nice bonus to this season.

    Missing Colleen doing chopsocky with her sword. Hopefully we get some Typhoid Mary and Colleen sword fights in the second half.



    * Danny's personality, the dialogue, the fight sequences, basically everything about Danny is improved so much it's impossible to give it a "110%"... cause anything times the 0% he was in season one....
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    Quote Originally Posted by nail bunny View Post
    Up to episode five and it's* so much better than season one and the Defenders it's not even funny.

    A (mostly) grown up and 'handling his stupid shit like an adult' Danny is refreshing.

    Joy is a better sympathetic villain than Ward was in season one and Ward is a far better "terrible friend and unreliable ally" than Joy was. The reversal of that situation is nice bonus to this season.

    Missing Colleen doing chopsocky with her sword. Hopefully we get some Typhoid Mary and Colleen sword fights in the second half.



    * Danny's personality, the dialogue, the fight sequences, basically everything about Danny is improved so much it's impossible to give it a "110%"... cause anything times the 0% he was in season one....
    What I read a while ago was that there was some kind of shared budget for the entire Marvel TV series line-up. And Iron Fist and Defenders were the last ones, which resulted in them being done on a far more limited budget than the first ones.
    This is also what lead to Netflix calling for Scott Buck - he has a shitty reputation among fans, but unlike his more liked peers in the field, he is able to produce stuff within budget* and still deliver on time.
    This probably also lead to Danny's actor being not only late to the whole project, but also given very little time and opportunity to train for the role (especially the physical part).

    I don't know how much of this is true, but it seems to make sense that some people aren't called in for their artistic qualities, but for being able to get something done with what they are given. I guess a bad show still has better return on investment than a show that doesn't get finished.


    *) This capability is also something Christopher Nolan has, which is why he can usually avoid studio interference. He might also be a far better storyteller than Scott, but he usually also has input on the budget in the first place - and unlike others, he knows how to estimate a realistic budget.

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    I liked it. Danny feels more genuine, at peace, and yet his struggle with identity doesn't feel like a petulant child. I like how he and Coleen have a normal functional relationship too.

    It redeemed the series quite a bit.

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    The last 30 seconds are mind-boggling insipid and do not give me hope for season 3/Defenders 2... but other than that this was a good season. More than worth watching.
    I wouldn't even censor you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nail bunny View Post
    The last 30 seconds are mind-boggling insipid and do not give me hope for season 3/Defenders 2... but other than that this was a good season. More than worth watching.
    Man, it was weird. But hell, I enjoyed it. Danny Rand's actor clearly isn't great at martial arts, so give him something else to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger Wickett View Post
    Danny Rand's actor clearly isn't great at martial arts, so give him something else to do.
    Like "not aim the pistols correctly"? Fabulous.
    I wouldn't even censor you.

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