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    MUNK DEBATE ON POLITICAL CORRECTNESS

    The argument: Be it resolved, what you call political correctness I call progress.

    Pro: Michelle Goldberg and Michael Dyson

    Con: Jordan Peterson and Stephen Fry




    The poll results (from after I took the poll):
    Spoiler:

    15 Tell us what you think of tonight's debate... . was it:
    Poor 22%
    Good 41.5%
    Great 21%
    Terrific 12.7%
    Best Yet 2.9%

    14 Did you change your vote over the course of the debate?
    YES 5.4%
    NO 94.6%

    13 Which team do you think won the debate?
    PRO 6.8%
    CON 93.2%

    12 Who delivered the strongest closing statement?
    Michael Eric Dyson 2.7%
    Jordan Peterson 45.8%
    Michelle Goldberg 2%
    Stephen Fry 49.4%

    11 Which team has to make up the most ground in the closing statements?
    PRO 79.1%
    CON 20.9%

    10 Which debater is impressing you the most?
    Michael Eric Dyson 4.2%
    Jordan Peterson 46.1%
    Michelle Goldberg 1.5%
    Stephen Fry 48.1%

    9 Which team is winning the free-for-all discussion?
    PRO 7%
    CON 93%

    8 Which debater provided the strongest rebuttal?
    Michael Eric Dyson 4.6%
    Jordan Peterson 68.2%
    Michelle Goldberg 2.1%
    Stephen Fry 25.1%

    7 Who do you think delivered the best opening statement?
    Michael Eric Dyson 5.6%
    Jordan Peterson 57.3%
    Michelle Goldberg 1.4%
    Stephen Fry 35.6%

    6 Rank Stephen Fry's opening statement
    Poor 1.4%
    Good 15.1%
    Great 28%
    Terrific 42.9%
    Best Yet 12.6%

    5 Rank Michelle Goldberg's opening statement
    Poor 60%
    Good 30.7%
    Great 7.1%
    Terrific 1.5%
    Best Yet 0.6%

    4 Rank Jordan Peterson's opening statement
    Poor 4%
    Good 12.4%
    Great 23.9%
    Terrific 37%
    Best Yet 22.8%

    3 Rank Michael Eric Dyson's opening statement
    Poor 61.9%
    Good 22.1%
    Great 9.3%
    Terrific 4.6%
    Best Yet 2.1%

    2 Are you in favor or opposed to the debate's resolution?
    PRO 12.5%
    CON 87.5%

    1 Which debater are you the most interested in hearing?
    Michael Eric Dyson 3.3%
    Jordan Peterson 69.6%
    Michelle Goldberg 1.4%
    Stephen Fry 25.7%


    TL/DW: (I won't† think any less of you if you don't actually watch it, it is two hours long after all)
    Spoiler:

    Michael Eric Dyson "Let me tell you about how blacks have been enslaved for the last 300 years in America"
    Jordan Peterson "Identity Politics are bad, m'kay"
    Michelle Goldberg "Um, so... gender inequality?"
    Stephen Fry "Is anyone besides me going to actually talk about Political Correctness? At all?"

    The biggest loser: Political correctness. Stephen, Jordan*, and Michelle* all come out against it. Micheal claims it's the tool of the white oppressors to stifle black empowerment? Umm... what mate?

    * in their own way, Jordan through his railing against the hobgoblin of Identity Politics, Michelle directly, but then she waffles and thinks it's okay because it's not just about speech and thought control, and when it's not about those two things it's great.





    † That should probably read as 'can't'.
    I wouldn't even censor you.

 

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    It seemed to me that all the guests were against the language of political correctness...but Golberg and Dyson took the term to include political action throughout the history of civil rights. Which made the debate pretty hard to watch...except for Stephen Fry...still love Stephen Fry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Gazebo View Post
    Which made the debate pretty hard to watch...except for Stephen Fry...still love Stephen Fry.
    Mr. Fry can make anything tolerable.
    I wouldn't even censor you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger Wickett View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member.
    I'm mostly with Spoony.

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    Dyson is an insufferable individual, he certainly lowered the standard of the debate.

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