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    McMaster is out

    Kelly”s next, probably next week. At that point all Trump will have in his advisory sphere are yes men. Like Saddam Hussein. Or Hitler.

    What I don't get is this - why do Republicans still defend him. I thought Republicans stood for free trade - Trumps against that. I thought they were for smaller deficits - Trump's ballooning it. I thought Republicans were for social morals - Trump has none at all. If Trump had been elected on the Democrat ticket I'm pretty sure the impeachment trial would be well underway.

    I just don't get it. I vaguely remember Reagan. I remember what Republicans stood for. They don't stand for anything at all anymore - they just ask what the Democrats want and then knee jerk oppose it.

    And yeah, Trump has 80% support among the Republicans. Maybe that's why Congress fears him. But aren't they smart enough to realize that's a strong 80% of a rapidly dwindling share of the electorate? Besides, where does his base go? They may hate Congress, but they loathe the Democrats after a generation of brain washing by Faux News. They aren't switching parties. So why don't the Republicans stand up for the things they once held dear? At this point it should be abundantly clear the tax cut for the 0.0001% is the only thing they're gonna get.

    McMaster was the "adult" in the room. Now John Bolton is in. I'll spot the doomsday clock at 1 second to midnight. With Trump and Bolton a full scale nuclear exchange with China is only a matter of time. Is that what Republicans stand for?

    And as I said early Kelly is gone. No one stands up to Trump and stays in his administration. The more yes men he has at his ears, the more emboldened he'll become. Kelly won't last the month. Sessions won't last till summer. Maybe the Republicans will grow a spine then when one of their favorites gets humiliated and turned out by this narcissist.

    It's just so sad to watch a political party kow tow to a mad man like this. Reagan must be spinning in his grave about now, to say nothing of Lincoln.
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    Republicans defend him because so many people are so over the top against him. It's pretty simple to understand really. The more people freak out about his every little tweet (rather than policy issues) the more people want to defend him.

    You're a very good example of the kind of guy that drives people to defend him Spoony. The less rational your opposition to him, the more people will be defensive.

    If people just focused on his policies, which for the most part (as you point out) suck ass, this wouldn't be happening.
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    I am hesistant to assume malovence before incompetence, but I kinda feel that the "tweet outrage" Trump triggers is intentional. Even if it's not, it's helping him more than it's hurting him.

    I try to avoid any news about what bullshit he says on twitter, because it's drivel to entertain and distract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustrum_Ridcully View Post
    I am hesistant to assume malovence before incompetence, but I kinda feel that the "tweet outrage" Trump triggers is intentional. Even if it's not, it's helping him more than it's hurting him.

    I try to avoid any news about what bullshit he says on twitter, because it's drivel to entertain and distract.
    Yes it's a distraction, but you're delusional if you think it's helping him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistwell View Post
    Republicans defend him because so many people are so over the top against him. It's pretty simple to understand really. The more people freak out about his every little tweet (rather than policy issues) the more people want to defend him.

    You're a very good example of the kind of guy that drives people to defend him Spoony. The less rational your opposition to him, the more people will be defensive.

    If people just focused on his policies, which for the most part (as you point out) suck ass, this wouldn't be happening.
    Yes it would. Since 1994 when Newt came to power the Regressive narrative has been "oppose whatever the Democrats want." They have no ideas of their own.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/23/polit...eet/index.html

    At least some Republicans are starting to see Trump and the Regressives for what they are - dangerous to America.

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    Slim Pickens at least felt some trepidation about what he was doing. I think there's a better example from that movie:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoony View Post
    Yes it would. Since 1994 when Newt came to power the Regressive narrative has been "oppose whatever the Democrats want." They have no ideas of their own.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/23/polit...eet/index.html

    At least some Republicans are starting to see Trump and the Regressives for what they are - dangerous to America.
    First, Republican voters don't support Trump because the Republican party opposes Democrats. Republican voters for the most part don't even like their own Republican congress, according to pretty much every single poll on the topic, and opposing Democrats doesn't even equate with supporting Trump (like, for example, me).

    Second, if I gave you an NPR podcast where they directly interview all the top Democratic leaders right now and they all universally agreed the biggest problem with the Democratic party today is the only thing they seem to stand for is "oppose whatever Trump wants" would it sink in? I suspect not. You're one of those "Our shit doesn't stink" type guys. But the point there is that "oppose the other guy" obviously can't be the thing that gets your leader support if both parties are doing it. There must be something more than "oppose the other guys" in play with support for a leader. And in this case I am saying the "something else" is "over the top opposition to non-policy issues causing people to get more defensive than they normally might be".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistwell View Post
    Second, if I gave you an NPR podcast where they directly interview all the top Democratic leaders right now and they all universally agreed the biggest problem with the Democratic party today is the only thing they seem to stand for is "oppose whatever Trump wants" would it sink in? I suspect not.
    Piss off.

    The problem is extremists on both sides have written off the other as severely retarded. In the case of the howler monkeys backing Trump that's likely true - but the Dunning-Kruger effect (They are too stupid to realize they're stupid) will forever conceal the ugly truth from them.

    I only engage you because you seem moderate, but if you're filing me with the left's morons (which I'll admit we have) then go fuck yourself - we have nothing to talk about.

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    Psst. Misty is one of those morons. He is a Republican enabler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoony View Post
    Piss off.

    The problem is extremists on both sides have written off the other as severely retarded. In the case of the howler monkeys backing Trump that's likely true - but the Dunning-Kruger effect (They are too stupid to realize they're stupid) will forever conceal the ugly truth from them.

    I only engage you because you seem moderate, but if you're filing me with the left's morons (which I'll admit we have) then go fuck yourself - we have nothing to talk about.
    You're openly calling for the assassination of the President; how are you not with the left's morons?
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    I think ovi's right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoony View Post
    Piss off.

    The problem is extremists on both sides have written off the other as severely retarded. In the case of the howler monkeys backing Trump that's likely true - but the Dunning-Kruger effect (They are too stupid to realize they're stupid) will forever conceal the ugly truth from them.

    I only engage you because you seem moderate, but if you're filing me with the left's morons (which I'll admit we have) then go fuck yourself - we have nothing to talk about.
    Um, I think you don't see yourself how you present yourself to others here. If you're not intending to portray yourself as on the extreme of your political philosophy, you might want to actually say things which indicate where you're actually at then.
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    What good would that do? People cling fiercely to their stereotypes. I can't escape the label assigned to this username and I've no intention of trying to make an alt only to have it ratted or guessed out. But I'm not me here, I'm playing the character that fits this rather insulting username.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoony View Post
    What good would that do? People cling fiercely to their stereotypes. I can't escape the label assigned to this username and I've no intention of trying to make an alt only to have it ratted or guessed out. But I'm not me here, I'm playing the character that fits this rather insulting username.
    So... you play a moronic over-the-top extremist leftist persona and then get pissy when people think your an over-the-top extremist leftist?

    For fucks sake grow the fuck up.
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