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    Your not very good at cost-benefit ratios, are you?

    I voted against Trump in the primary, and for a 3rd party in the general. Trump is yuuuuuuuge asshole, and if I wanted an asshole for president I'd have voted for myself. My state failed to reach the magic threshold for 3rd party funding, but my vote was no more "wasted" than people who voted for Clinton - my choice (which was less about the individual and more about breaking the whole system) simply failed to get enough votes.

    So Trump winning wasn't something I expected to happen, but was an acceptable risk, because the alternative is repeat of the shit show that was the 2016 election cycle. That's something we're getting now, in large part because the two party system in the US is A) already broken just by dint of winner-take-all elections and B) Unions no longer controlling the votes poor, ethno-reactionary whites (and their subsequent shift to voting for the GOP- rust-belt, I'm looking at you).

    Our entire system is broken. and escaping it trumps (heh) other concerns.

 

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    I bet everything will run smoothly once we've gone full-on authoritarian. I used to wonder how the Russian's used to get the Politburo to vote unanimously on all of their decisions back in the Cold War days, and wondered what kinds of threats needed to be made to keep folks in line. Now I understand that no explicit threats are needed at all. People are just that stupid and misguided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kid Charlemagne View Post
    ...People are just that stupid and misguided.
    Welcome to always!

    I personally believe that a person can be smart, but people are stupid. Groupthink, for all the benefits it brings to societal stability, leads to a population more easily manipulated by the powerful few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkhidu View Post
    Your not very good at cost-benefit ratios, are you?
    You've just eclipsed nail bunny as the dumbest person on this board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkhidu View Post
    Your not very good at cost-benefit ratios, are you?

    I voted against Trump in the primary, and for a 3rd party in the general. Trump is yuuuuuuuge asshole, and if I wanted an asshole for president I'd have voted for myself. My state failed to reach the magic threshold for 3rd party funding, but my vote was no more "wasted" than people who voted for Clinton - my choice (which was less about the individual and more about breaking the whole system) simply failed to get enough votes.

    So Trump winning wasn't something I expected to happen, but was an acceptable risk, because the alternative is repeat of the shit show that was the 2016 election cycle. That's something we're getting now, in large part because the two party system in the US is A) already broken just by dint of winner-take-all elections and B) Unions no longer controlling the votes poor, ethno-reactionary whites (and their subsequent shift to voting for the GOP- rust-belt, I'm looking at you).

    Our entire system is broken. and escaping it trumps (heh) other concerns.
    I had the added benefit of knowing the state in which I vote was going for Clinton no matter what. This freed me from worrying about Trump and allowed me to go full on third party...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoony View Post
    The Atlantic prides itself on being neutral. I'm not so sure, but I've accused them of being right wing before so maybe they are.
    Uh, no.

    Fuck, what the Hell do I know?
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    I've been voting Democrat my whole life based on this principle. It's not that I like the Democrats (they're very meh), it's that the Republicans are corrupt shitbags, their base consists of retarded howler monkeys flinging poo at the walls in terror, and their policies are toxic and stupid. It's not even the "lesser of two evils" it's that you're making a choice between boring but reasonably competent politicos who will mindlessly maintain the status quo and a gibbering horde of maniacs, loons, wingnuts and con-artists who have no idea how to run a government. That's not even a choice.

    And yeah, sure, there are some few Republicans politicians who aren't corrupt douchebags, but it doesn't even matter. A vote for a Republican is a vote for Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan and their agenda, and those guys are clowns.

    Trump is just making the flaws in the GOP obvious to everyone, but really if you've been paying attention, the GOP has been steamrolling in that direction ever since Newt Gingrich took out his Contract On America. Gingrich repurposed the party into the party of mindless opposition, dedicated to disagreeing with the Dems on any issue, no matter what. And since one of the core principles of the Dems is to have a reasonably functioning government, with the GOP you get the opposite. "Liberals" think the government should, you know, function. The GOP doesn't. And that's fucking retarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skepticultist View Post
    I've been voting Democrat my whole life based on this principle. It's not that I like the Democrats (they're very meh), it's that the Republicans are corrupt shitbags, their base consists of retarded howler monkeys flinging poo at the walls in terror, and their policies are toxic and stupid. It's not even the "lesser of two evils" it's that you're making a choice between boring but reasonably competent politicos who will mindlessly maintain the status quo and a gibbering horde of maniacs, loons, wingnuts and con-artists who have no idea how to run a government. That's not even a choice.

    And yeah, sure, there are some few Republicans politicians who aren't corrupt douchebags, but it doesn't even matter. A vote for a Republican is a vote for Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan and their agenda, and those guys are clowns.

    Trump is just making the flaws in the GOP obvious to everyone, but really if you've been paying attention, the GOP has been steamrolling in that direction ever since Newt Gingrich took out his Contract On America. Gingrich repurposed the party into the party of mindless opposition, dedicated to disagreeing with the Dems on any issue, no matter what. And since one of the core principles of the Dems is to have a reasonably functioning government, with the GOP you get the opposite. "Liberals" think the government should, you know, function. The GOP doesn't. And that's fucking retarded.
    Random Republican who denies being a Republican will come and say Dems are very thing you described Republicans are. Probably Misty. Or Ovi. Or Enkhiduh. Or another...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yablo View Post
    Random Republican who denies being a Republican will come and say Dems are very thing you described Republicans are. Probably Misty. Or Ovi. Or Enkhiduh. Or another...
    Of course they will. Whataboutism (with a side of False Equivalence) is pretty much the only argument Republicans can make.

    The problem is that facts are not on their side. The Gingrich revolution happened. Frank Luntz and Gingrich did adopt a policy of ultra-partisanship. That happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skepticultist View Post
    Of course they will. Whataboutism (with a side of False Equivalence) is pretty much the only argument Republicans can make.

    The problem is that facts are not on their side. The Gingrich revolution happened. Frank Luntz and Gingrich did adopt a policy of ultra-partisanship. That happened.
    Congrats! You're now the patsy of the board troll. Just to benchmark this, Yablo pretended to be an ex-member currently doing time for being a child-molester, including to the victim's mother.
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    I think ovi's right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovinomancer View Post
    Congrats! You're now the patsy of the board troll. Just to benchmark this, Yablo pretended to be an ex-member currently doing time for being a child-molester, including to the victim's mother.
    First, I don't think you know what the term "patsy" means.

    Second, what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skepticultist View Post
    Second, what?
    CM has a pedo problem. For example, Pedo Bunny, aka Nail Bunny, defend Milo Pedopoulos defense of sleeping with you boys. Cause "alt-rightists" are for men exploiting everyone else without discrimination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yablo View Post
    CM has a pedo problem. For example, Pedo Bunny, aka Nail Bunny, defend Milo Pedopoulos defense of sleeping with you boys. Cause "alt-rightists" are for men exploiting everyone else without discrimination.
    ...that did nothing to make things more clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skepticultist View Post
    First, I don't think you know what the term "patsy" means.

    Second, what?
    Pretty sure he knows exactly what a patsy is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skepticultist View Post
    First, I don't think you know what the term "patsy" means.

    Second, what?
    First: He means you're responding to Kzach's sockpuppet* Yablo. It feeds on the attention.

    Second: Yablo/Goldomark/etc rolled in pretending to be an ex-board member that is doing time for pedophilia and child pornography, a person that should not have access to a computer. Yablo did this knowing full well what behavior it was engaging in and that doing so would upset the mother of the pedophile's victim (who is a member here also).





    * It's not really a sockpuppet account of Kzach's, but saying that annoys both of them so... win-win for me.
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