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    can't be bothered Eldorian's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkhidu View Post
    Brexit, in many respects, shows the limits of direct democracy.

    If nothing else, I hope that the powers in the west absorb this lesson, and recommit to representative democracy as a brake on the willfulness of new and narrow majorities.
    Or at least demand better than a simple majority for such drastic changes.

 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorian View Post
    Or at least demand better than a simple majority for such drastic changes.
    The problem with Brexit is that it wasn't supposed to be a win. Direct democracy and simple majorities are not the issues. The referendum was supposed to satisfy the nationalist/nativist/anti-EU/anti-internationalisation wing of the Conservative Party. There pas no plan if the leave option won, because it wasn't supposed to win and leaving the EU was always a shitty option.

    May is just trying to solve an insolvable puzzle. Ultimately, staying in the EU will remain the only viable path.
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    This seems to have become the general UK politics thread. Seems the petition to revoke Article 50 is perhaps the fastest growning one ever.

    it was up above 700,000 last time I looked and keeps going down for maintenance. It had over half a million in less than 24 hours.

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584
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    Not only free speech we have lost but the actual right to freedom it appears.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47737635
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagpuss View Post
    Not only free speech we have lost but the actual right to freedom it appears.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47737635
    Holy shit, that's fucking horrible.
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    I think ovi's right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagpuss View Post
    Not only free speech we have lost but the actual right to freedom it appears.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47737635
    Why do you keep electing these horrible leaders... "European Court of Human Rights has determined..." never mind. The UK probably didn't elect the judges who made the ruling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nail bunny View Post
    Why do you keep electing these horrible leaders... "European Court of Human Rights has determined..." never mind. The UK probably didn't elect the judges who made the ruling.
    Ah, you didn't read the article all the way -- the EU Court refused to hear the case because the British courts had already made rulings on it that they won't challenge. This is a British problem that wasn't going to be corrected by the EU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovinomancer View Post
    Ah, you didn't read the article all the way -- the EU Court refused to hear the case because the British courts had already made rulings on it that they won't challenge. This is a British problem that wasn't going to be corrected by the EU.
    Actually I thought it was because the Danes made a ruling that detention without cause in protection against possible future crime was okay.
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    Armchair lawyers of the internet: always ready to critic stuff they do not understand.
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