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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagpuss View Post
    To be honest I'm more bothered about having to tell the government when I access porn.
    Sure... I can get that.

    Wait. What the hell? Why would you have to tell the gov you're looking at porn? Don't they already monitor your every online interaction? /bigbrother.jpeg
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    Quote Originally Posted by nail bunny View Post
    Sure... I can get that.

    Wait. What the hell? Why would you have to tell the gov you're looking at porn? Don't they already monitor your every online interaction? /bigbrother.jpeg
    Well yes GCHQ has been caught doing very wide analysis of metadata, which technically they shouldn't be doing. But that only ties it to a IP, they don't know who is sat at the keyboard.

    Now you need to provide ID to access porn on the internet, supposedly it's coming in, in April. Although it was meant to be coming in for a couple of year now, but this time they have ironed out all the kinks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagpuss View Post
    ...but this time they have ironed out all the kinks.
    So to speak.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagpuss View Post
    Now you need to provide ID to access porn on the internet...
    Is this going to be on the porn supplier's side or some other weird government insertion thingy.

    ...supposedly it's coming in, in April.

    Although it was meant to be coming in for a couple of year now...





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    ...but this time they have ironed out all the kinks.
    So to speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagpuss View Post
    To be honest I'm more bothered about having to tell the government when I access porn.
    What if you want to access porn AND have a hammer!?

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    Well yes GCHQ has been caught doing very wide analysis of metadata, which technically they shouldn't be doing. But that only ties it to a IP, they don't know who is sat at the keyboard.
    Uh, VPN?

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    ... supposedly it's coming in, in April. Although it was meant to be coming in for a couple of year now, but this time they have ironed out all the kinks.
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    So to speak.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagpuss View Post
    To be honest I'm more bothered about having to tell the government when I access porn.
    I suppose you could pay for VPN service to get around that, but why not let them know about your midget clown fetish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3catcircus View Post
    I suppose you could pay for VPN service to get around that, but why not let them know about your midget clown fetish?
    Same reason you use a VPN to cloak any sort of even remotely sensitive data; once information is 'out', you have zero control on who else it gets out to. You might be okay with your ISP knowing about your midget clown fetish, but it may be another thing altogether if they distribute that information to, say, your employer. Or to the public if you were to run for an elected position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palaralae View Post
    Same reason you use a VPN to cloak any sort of even remotely sensitive data; once information is 'out', you have zero control on who else it gets out to. You might be okay with your ISP knowing about your midget clown fetish, but it may be another thing altogether if they distribute that information to, say, your employer. Or to the public if you were to run for an elected position.
    Welll, if it is to your employer, you can always point out the hypocrisy of him/her having a mime fetish.
    As for elected officials, they all have skeletons in their closet. Clown fetishes are probably the tamest example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kirinke View Post
    Welll, if it is to your employer, you can always point out the hypocrisy of him/her having a mime fetish.
    As for elected officials, they all have skeletons in their closet. Clown fetishes are probably the tamest example.
    Either you're trying to make a joke, or you're utterly missing the point of "once information gets out, you can't control who/where it gets to".

    This is my 'totally surprised' face.

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    I was trying to make a joke.
    Madness does not always howl. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "Hey, is there room in your head for one more?"

    I is before E except after C, then it's chaos man, mass chaos! Letters coming together into words, but then you go English and they put U's in places that just shouldn't go there... AHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

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    In other UK porn related news they have removed the specific things from on what they consider extreme porn (IE: illegal) and made the guidance a bit more lax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagpuss View Post
    In other UK porn related news they have removed the specific things from on what they consider extreme porn (IE: illegal) and made the guidance a bit more lax.
    Get a girl friend or pay for sex instead.
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    And suddenly BREXIT isn't looking quite so stupid in terms of free speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistwell View Post
    And suddenly BREXIT isn't looking quite so stupid in terms of free speech.
    Well that will prevent food shortage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistwell View Post
    And suddenly BREXIT isn't looking quite so stupid in terms of free speech.
    What is the reason to believe that the UK won't institute similar laws? Remember the UK requires you to explicitely request access to pornographic content, otherwise by default it gets blocked to everyone. So it seems the government in the UK has no problems with limitations to free speech.

    Another thing to realize: Any rule made by the EU can only be made such a rule because the majority of member states agree to it. That means the majority of the goverments in the EU would have probably instituted a similar law if left to their own devices. So anyone blaming the EU as the evil thing that forces this upon all of us - remember that your elected government is influencing the decisions of the EU, so better check if your government wasn't among the majority supporting this law.

    For example, Germany did support this law. However, the junior partner in the German government actually was against it. So from my perspective - what's really broken? The EU, or the German government?

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