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  1. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Mistwell View Post
    The Senate is so much more fun with Yablo on ignore.
    I love the irony of this coming from someone whinning about safe space and trigger warnings.

    I expect you doing this back and forth a lot over the years. Go to your safe space. Get out of it and engage a bit with fallacies. Then go back in once you've been out debated. Then get out of it...

    As an expectant dad though, you still have my support (and sympathy for upcoming lost sleep) for that.
    My girlfriend who had my son 6 weeks ago. And on the day Glorious Leader Trump was elected. His birht will protect our family from Glorious Leader's wrath. He won't protect us from
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  • #17
    A Jewish family was forced to flee their house after Fox News and Breitbart said they attacked Christmas. Hillarious!

    "A Jewish family was forced to flee their Pennsylvania home after Fox News and Breitbart ran stories wrongly blaming them for being responsible for the cancellation of a Christmas play. A Christmas Carol was set to be performed by local fifth graders, as is tradition at Centerville Elementary School; and the Jewish parents asked for their child to be exempt from the play, and were granted the exemption. The school district ended up canceling the program, however, and said it was due to time constraints, not objections to the line, “God bless us, every one.” Sites like FoxNews.com and Breitbart, nevertheless, ran stories implying that the family was responsible for the play being axed. Their children were being harrassed at school, and after suspecting that their address would be leaked online, the family fled. “There’s no way we’re going to take a chance after the pizza incident,” they told Lancaster Online, referring to a fake news story which prompted an individual to show up armed at a D.C. pizza restaurant to “investigate” the false conspiracy theory of a Clinton-run child-sex slave ring." http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/...source=copyurl
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  • #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Yablo View Post
    My girlfriend who had my son 6 weeks ago. And on the day Glorious Leader Trump was elected. His birht will protect our family from Glorious Leader's wrath. He won't protect us from
    He won't protect us from... what?

    I think Yablo just passed out from lack of sleep.

  • #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Devoid View Post
    He won't protect us from... what?

    I think Yablo just passed out from lack of sleep.
    From the wrath of Canadians, of course.
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  • #20
    Republican news outlets have already appropriated the term "fake news" and use it on any mediatic content they disagree with. The sad part is that its working as talking points used by some posters on this very board show.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/25/us...dia-.html?_r=0

    "The C.I.A., the F.B.I. and the White House may all agree that Russia was behind the hacking that interfered with the election. But that was of no import to the website Breitbart News, which dismissed reports on the intelligence assessment as “left-wing fake news.”

    Rush Limbaughhas diagnosed a more fundamental problem. “The fake news is the everyday news” in the mainstream media, he said on his radio show recently. “They just make it up.”

    Some supporters of President-elect Donald J. Trump have also taken up the call. As reporters were walking out of a Trump rally this month in Orlando, Fla., a man heckled them with shouts of “Fake news!”

    Until now, that term had been widely understood to refer to fabricated news accounts that are meant to spread virally online. But conservative cable and radio personalities, top Republicans and even Mr. Trump himself, incredulous about suggestions that fake stories may have helped swing the election, have appropriated the term and turned it against any news they see as hostile to their agenda.
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  • #21
    Quote Originally Posted by NPR
    When he debuted in 1938, Superman was, briefly, a progressive icon. He sprang, after all, from the minds of two Jewish kids in Cleveland warily watching the rise of Hitler in Europe. In his first year of life, they sent their "Champion of the Oppressed" (his very first nickname, years before "Man of Steel") after corrupt Senators, war-mongering foreign leaders, weapons merchants, and crooked stockbrokers. He purposefully razed a slum to force the city government to provide better low-income housing. (He also launched one-man crusades against slot machines, reckless drivers, and cheating college football teams, which ... yeah. Guy kept busy.)
    Laudable goals, but go read the actual stories to see how he went about them. 1938-39 Superman was a bully who didn't give a shit about inconveniencing innocent bystanders with his antics. He regularly and needlessly destroys private property, threatens to "break your neck" or "rip your lungs out" if you don't cooperate with him, etc.

    His crusade against reckless drivers (Action Comics #12) began by visiting the Metropolis Police impound lot and destroying all the cars impounded for reckless driving (no indication of how he distinguished them from cars impounded for other reasons.) His next stop was to all the used car lots in the city that sold cars in less than good working order. He destroyed all of them, too. He laughed at the police who tried to stop him.

    Then he went to the manufacturing plant for the company that appeared to him to be producing the majority of substandard vehicles and destroyed the plant. His last stop was to hijack the mayor's car, kidnap him, fly him around the city and bully him into enforcing the traffic laws more rigorously. Early on, he physically assaulted a radio station employee who wouldn't let him into the studio while a broadcast was in session, seized the microphone and make threatening statements to announce his war on reckless driving, and smashed through the exterior wall of the studio to escape police; later in the day, just after the radio station had repaired the wall, he smashes through it again just to rough up the station employees so they'd remember he was "dead in earnest."

    • Declared enemy: reckless drivers
    • Actual victims: insurance companies, used car lots, an auto manufacturing plant, a radio station, the mayor, possibly Metropolis PD if they're liable for damages to vehicles in their impound lot...and three random reckless drivers he played pranks on, but didn't take into custody!
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  • #22
    I'm guessing cars accidents involving deaths and injuries were a big problem of the time and since it was rich people who could afford cars, they also got away with their reckless driving.

    The comics took a populist approach and made people feel better since politicians, police officers, manufacturers and insurance compagnies didn't do much about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yablo View Post
    I'm guessing cars accidents involving deaths and injuries were a big problem of the time and since it was rich people who could afford cars, they also got away with their reckless driving.
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  • #24
    Major French newspaper will not order polls for the next presidential race. I wonder if it wll last or spread. http://www.france24.com/en/20170103-...2017-elections

    "The editor of one of France’s most popular newspapers has said he will stop commissioning opinion polls ahead of next year’s presidential election, citing pollsters’ failure to predict Brexit or November’s US election.

    Stéphane Albouy, who heads Le Parisien and its sister title Aujourd’hui en France (which are by and large identical, although Le Parisien provides local Paris news), said he wanted his journalists to focus on “on the ground reporting” instead of relying on surveys.

    “We have been thinking about it for some time now, especially since Brexit and the election of Donald Trump,” he told AFP.“It is not a question of defying the pollsters so much as experimenting with a different way of working ahead of the elections,” he said, adding that he would not forbid reporters commenting on polls commissioned by other titles.

    “But we want to avoid giving the sort of commentary that accompanies a horse race, always focusing on who is in the lead,” he added. "We want to concentrate, in depth, on the candidates and their manifestos.”
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  • #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Calamari Face View Post
    "In the early days of automobiles, it was reported that there were only two cars registered in all of Kansas City, and they ran into each other. There is both poetry and philosophy in this fact..." -- Jeanine Basinger
    I remember reading this in a Mad Comic, set to a swimmer that said: "Oh, the swimming pool is pretty empty to do, that reminds me of the story in the early days of automobiles"... And when he gets to the "ran each other" part, guess what happens!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yablo View Post
    Major French newspaper will not order polls for the next presidential race. I wonder if it wll last or spread. http://www.france24.com/en/20170103-...2017-elections

    "The editor of one of France’s most popular newspapers has said he will stop commissioning opinion polls ahead of next year’s presidential election, citing pollsters’ failure to predict Brexit or November’s US election.

    Stéphane Albouy, who heads Le Parisien and its sister title Aujourd’hui en France (which are by and large identical, although Le Parisien provides local Paris news), said he wanted his journalists to focus on “on the ground reporting” instead of relying on surveys.

    “We have been thinking about it for some time now, especially since Brexit and the election of Donald Trump,” he told AFP.“It is not a question of defying the pollsters so much as experimenting with a different way of working ahead of the elections,” he said, adding that he would not forbid reporters commenting on polls commissioned by other titles.

    “But we want to avoid giving the sort of commentary that accompanies a horse race, always focusing on who is in the lead,” he added. "We want to concentrate, in depth, on the candidates and their manifestos.”
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    This would be interesting. Giving polls less "power/influence" would probably help dialogue.
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  • #27
    Quote Originally Posted by GreyOne View Post
    This would be interesting. Giving polls less "power/influence" would probably help dialogue.
    Or thanks to social media we get tones of fake polls.

    We already saw the very unscientific instapolls of the Drudge Report arouse Trump. "Loved doing the debate...won Drudge and all on-line polls! Amazing evening, moderators did an outstanding job." http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...e-online-polls
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    Quote Originally Posted by Advocatus Diaboli View Post
    Laudable goals, but go read the actual stories to see how he went about them. 1938-39 Superman was a bully who didn't give a shit about inconveniencing innocent bystanders with his antics. He regularly and needlessly destroys private property, threatens to "break your neck" or "rip your lungs out" if you don't cooperate with him, etc.

    His crusade against reckless drivers (Action Comics #12) began by visiting the Metropolis Police impound lot and destroying all the cars impounded for reckless driving (no indication of how he distinguished them from cars impounded for other reasons.) His next stop was to all the used car lots in the city that sold cars in less than good working order. He destroyed all of them, too. He laughed at the police who tried to stop him.

    Then he went to the manufacturing plant for the company that appeared to him to be producing the majority of substandard vehicles and destroyed the plant. His last stop was to hijack the mayor's car, kidnap him, fly him around the city and bully him into enforcing the traffic laws more rigorously. Early on, he physically assaulted a radio station employee who wouldn't let him into the studio while a broadcast was in session, seized the microphone and make threatening statements to announce his war on reckless driving, and smashed through the exterior wall of the studio to escape police; later in the day, just after the radio station had repaired the wall, he smashes through it again just to rough up the station employees so they'd remember he was "dead in earnest."

    • Declared enemy: reckless drivers
    • Actual victims: insurance companies, used car lots, an auto manufacturing plant, a radio station, the mayor, possibly Metropolis PD if they're liable for damages to vehicles in their impound lot...and three random reckless drivers he played pranks on, but didn't take into custody!
    Wasn't Joe Shuster Canadian-born?
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  • #29
    It takes 14 minutes for Trump to repeat what Fox News told him to think. https://www.axios.com/the-president-...tent=textshort
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  • #30
    Wikipedia editors are banning the use of the Daily Mail as a source because it is unreliable. Amusing considering this is what I was saying to Feanor just a few days ago. Still, it is a burden to always be right like I am.

    "Consensus has determined that the Daily Mail (including its online version, dailymail.co.uk) is generally unreliable, and its use as a reference is to be generally prohibited, especially when other more reliable sources exist. As a result, the Daily Mail should not be used for determining notability, nor should it be used as a source in articles. An edit filter should be put in place going forward to warn editors attempting to use the Daily Mail as a reference. " http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_te...ournalism.html
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