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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    I'm really trying to figure out why you're defending a politically toxic group that the GOP should be jettisoning instead of courting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    I'm really trying to figure out why you're defending a politically toxic group that the GOP should be jettisoning instead of courting. The FRC absolutely lobbies the US government to enact anti-gay legislation including the criminalization of homosexuality. Lawrence v. Texas made this a largely futile effort, but they filed amicus briefs in that case supporting sodomy laws that specifically target gays. Their success at achieving their agenda overseas is not immediately relevant.
    Your mistake is thinking I'm "defending" anything here. I'm certainly not defending FRC. I didn't even know who they were an hour ago. I was questioning the need to go after Duggar because as far as I was concerned his only claim to fame was the clown car he arrived from. Since it personally means more to you I can understand how you would like to expose TRCs antics but that connection was missing from the initial post.

    As far as the need for the GOP to openly disavow I'm not sure I see the point. TRC has a broad platform of issues, many of which were in full alignment with the GOP. Yes they have a toxic opinion on the matter of homosexuals and homosexual relations, but they're also a tiny think tank and certainly not involved in mainstream GOP politics. If the demand is the GOP must run around and disavow any and all think tanks that say anything remotely toxic, I'm not sure I can agree with you on that. Send a waste of time, and the democrats certainty aren't doing it, either.

    If you makes you feel any better I will personally disavow TRC as toxic. Also largely unimportant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kid Charlemagne View Post
    Heh, that's funny and a bit true, but not because of politics. I'm just a bit tired of the internet rage machine and the shame mobs.
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    Their power is waning in the GOP, notably the RNC rejected two of their three anti-gay legislative priorities from the latest party platform, but as they present an existential threat to me you'll forgive me for not letting up just because I currently have the upper hand. The ability to discredit an organization that says that homosexuals should be denied marriage because they can't be monogamous while their own executive director is philandering online is an opportunity to further marginalize them and hopefully in 2020 the RNC will stop listening to them altogether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    Their power is waning in the GOP, notably the RNC rejected two of their three anti-gay legislative priorities from the latest party platform
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovinomancer View Post
    Heh, that's funny and a bit true, but not because of politics. I'm just a bit tired of the internet rage machine and the shame mobs.
    Well that I can certainly agree with.
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    In other news: a 15-year old smartass puts "Deez Nuts" on a political ballot, and then 9% of the people polled decide he's the best pick for President: http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...not-exist.html

    Deez Nuts, the Independent candidate from Iowa, is polling at 9 percent in North Carolina for President of the United States.

    Sadly, Deez Nuts does not appear to exist. But Brady Olson does.

    “When I heard about the Limberbutt McCubbins story, I realized I could,” Olson tells The Daily Beast.

    Brady Olson is 15 years old. He filed to run for the President of the United States with the FEC on July 26 as Deez Nuts.

    According to a Public Policy Polling survey released Wednesday, almost one in 10 Tar Heel State voters would vote for him in a race between Nuts, Donald Trump, and Hillary Clinton.

    (Limberbutt McCubbins, by the way, is a cat from Kentucky seeking the Democratic nomination for president.)

    Dozens of real Deez Nutses or Deez Nutzes do live as citizens in the United States of America with legally changed names, from Phoenix, Arizona, to West Hartford, Connecticut, from sea to shining sea, but a potential president does not appear to be one of them.

    According to a Federal Election Commission filing, the Deez Nuts running for president lives at 2248 450th Avenue in Wallingford, Iowa. The problem, however, is that there is no Deez Nuts who lives in Wallingford, Iowa—a tiny town of 197 people—according to the Emmet County recorder’s office.

    “Seriously?” Emmet County recorder’s assistant Jill White asked when The Daily Beast mentioned there was a federally registered presidential candidate by the name of “Deez Nuts”—and that a reporter was requesting information on a resident by that name.

    There’s only Brady Olson, the son of a farmer and a dental assistant, and a rising sophomore at the Graettinger Terril Ruthven Ayrshire Community School in rural Iowa.

    Now he’s trying to figure out his path to becoming the first 15-year-old President of the United States under an assumed name.

    “The next step is to get some party nominations, like the Minnesota Independence Party or the Modern Whig Party,” Olson says. “It would also be great to find a VP, preferably McCubbins because the Nuts/McCubbins ticket sounds amazing.”

    So how did Brady Olson go from standard Iowa high school student to the No. 1 trending topic on Twitter—literally overnight?

    “The polls are pretty long. By the time we drop Deez Nuts on them, they’re pretty deep into the poll.”
    “It started because somebody emailed us under the name Deez Nuts,” says Jim Williams, an issue polling specialist a Public Policy Polling. “He said, ‘I’m Deez Nuts. I’m running. Here’s my filing statement. Would you poll me?’”

    Williams thought “this is something Public Policy Polling would do,” so he squared Nuts off against Trump and Clinton in Minnesota a few weeks ago. He polled at 7 percent.

    “I thought, ‘Let’s put this out. This’ll be funny,’” he says, and it was met with “mild interest.”

    But when his numbers rose after two more polls—8 percent in Iowa, then 9 percent in North Carolina—Nuts took off. On Wednesday, Deez Nuts was trending worldwide on Twitter.

    “Today, we’ve clearly reached the tipping point,” says Williams.

    There is no 9-1-1 listing corresponding to that 2248 450th Street, according to officials at the Emmet County Registry of Deeds. Next door—at 2250 450th Street in Wallingford—sits Olson Land & Livestock, which is owned by Brady’s dad, Mark Olson.

    “Anybody can fill out a Form 2,” says FEC Deputy Press Officer Christian Hilland. “We do vetting, but it’s more about did they fill out the information correctly? Did they review the fields? It doesn’t speak to the authenticity of the individual who filed the claim.”

    “Nuts” did, in fact, fill out a Form 2—a statement of candidacy—on July 26. The form had no information other than the Wallingford address and his Independent party affiliation.

    Fellow Form 2 filers for the 2016 election cycle include Sydneys Vuluptuous Buttocks, Kenny Rodeo, Eden, and Ole’ Savior. Savior, a Republican, ran and lost in four other elections since 2006.

    Savior and Nuts join President Emperor Caesar, Buddy the Cat, Buddy the Elf, Jack Sparrow, James “Titus the Great” Law, Princess Oawlawolwaol, and Donald Trump in the 2016 race for the presidency.

    You can fill out your own Form 2 here and—good news—none of the fields are immediately checked against public records searches.

    You, too, can be Deez Nuts from Wallingford, Iowa. The problems will only start to appear when your grassroots campaign for the presidency starts to receive the support of almost one-tenth of the residents of North Carolina.

    “We check for things like, ‘What election cycle are you running in?’ If one or more of those fields are missing, we have campaign finance analysts who review those reports,” says Hilland. “We send a letter to the listed address that asks for clarification or an amendment.”

    Also, if he or she raises $5,000, whoever lives at 2248 450th Avenue is going to have to come up with a real name. Nuts will then have to file a Form 1, which requires a name, phone number and address that check out.

    And, again, the name doesn’t check out.

    “The name isn’t familiar to me. Do you really think that’s a legitimate name?” Brenda Moore of the Emmet County treasurer’s office asked The Daily Beast.

    The county of just over 10,000 had no idea an alleged Independent front-runner from their neighborhood was earning national headlines.

    “I haven’t heard a word—not a word about it,” says Amy Sathoff of the Emmet County auditor’s office.

    She chuckled when The Daily Beast asked her to search “Deez Nuts” in her records.

    “It seems kind of odd,” Sathoff says, but confirmed that “no person with that last name owns property in Emmet County.”

    Since he began polling near double digits, Olson even began offering concrete policy positions on his Facebook page.

    “He’s now come out for a balanced budget. He’s come out in favor of the Iran Deal,” says Williams. “Deez Nuts is starting to get serious.”

    Joking aside, Williams says Nuts’s high polling numbers shows that “clearly, there’s some kind of floor here for third-party entities that’s rising.”

    “I think having Trump as part of the poll helps push that number up because it leaves room for the non-hardcore Republicans who are not going to get on board with Donald Trump,” says Williams.

    Plus, there’s a logistical reason Nuts is polling so well.

    “The polls are pretty long. By the time we drop Deez Nuts on them, they’re pretty deep into the poll,” Williams says, then pauses.

    “The jokes write themselves.”

    But now, Olson is emboldened by his rising poll numbers. Despite the hurdles—the president has to be at least 35 to take office, after all—he plans on winning the whole thing.

    “The U.S. would have to pass an amendment to take out Article 2,” says Olson. “But Congress wouldn’t do that—after being so embarrassed after losing to Deez Nuts.”

    I find this rather hilarious, almost as funny as when "Al Green" won a Democratic primary for congress in South Carolina a few years ago. I'm also getting the urge to fill out some Federal election forms.

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    What that's telling me is that there is a significant portion of the populace that want something other than the same old same old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedWick View Post
    What that's telling me is that there is a significant portion of the populace that want something other than the same old same old.
    That goes a long way to explaining Trump -- he's nothing like the establishment parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovinomancer View Post
    That goes a long way to explaining Trump -- he's nothing like the establishment parties.
    Ditto on Sanders. I wouldn't be surprised to see a third party or an otherwise non-traditional candidate drawing big numbers this cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedWick View Post
    What that's telling me is that there is a significant portion of the populace that want something other than the same old same old.
    What it tells me is that America really wants Deez Nuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedWick View Post
    Ditto on Sanders. I wouldn't be surprised to see a third party or an otherwise non-traditional candidate drawing big numbers this cycle.
    It'll be interesting to see if they're passing fads or it's something more significant. If it's the latter I'll look forward to one or more party meltdowns at their respective national conventions. Perhaps there'll be some youtube videos featuring Korean parliament style brawls on the convention floor.

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    Anchor Babies.

    So there's a lot of caterwauling over how "offensive" the term is. While given some legitimacy by Trump's attack on birthright citizenship, the whining and moaning is really over the top.

    Bush for example asks a reasonable question: Give him a different term and he'll use it. There's no arguing that people cross the border pregnant specifically to have a baby in the states as a way of getting their family a toe in the door, and there's no arguing that some undocumenteds set about specifically to get pregnant after slipping in for the same reason.

    Whatever your stance on the larger question of birthright citizenship (Hint: There is no question), wailing about pointing out the practice is pathetic.
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    The guys already a fucking pedophile, why give a shit if he's on Ashley Madison? It's the same weird obsession that shows up with Zimmerman.
    It's the vast left-wing conspiracy and the politics of personal destruction. /Bizarro-Hillary
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